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PostSubject: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:30 am

Do you think that John Wayne Gacy started killing people because of a rat?

Here's why I ask.

When Gacy was a young boy he was entirely unremarkable. Save for one thing. He liked to capture mice and rats in a wire trap. Then he would dissect them while they were still alive. He was oblivious to their agony.

Years later Gacy was living a perfectly normal life. Or at least he seemed to be. He became a successful building contractor and he liked holding barbeques for the neighbours. His wife, however, couldn't help noticing a strange smell from under the floorboards.

And nothing Gacy did - lime, concrete, whatever, would make the smell go away. Hardly surprising. By that point he had buried more than 30 boys in shallow graves underneath his property.

In his (fabulous) new book How We Decide Jonah Lehrer tells the story of Gacy, the tale of the classic psychopath. His point was that we could see Gacy's future in his lack of emotion when dissecting the rats.

Anybody arguing that Gacy's violent behaviour with rats caused him to be a murder, would appear ridiculous. Obviously the same brain dysfunction caused both torture of rats and torture of boys.

Now what about Tim Kretschmer? After his shooting spree, his local paper naturally asks "Warum?" (Why).

And in the reports we get this:

“He was completely unremarkable, there was nothing in his background to suggest this could have happened,” Mr Rech said.

Fellow students described him as "quiet" and "reserved," although it appears that he had recently spent increasing amounts of time before a computer playing a shoot-em-up video game called Counter Strike.

There have been quite a few mentions of this violent computer game this morning.

Naturally, however, Kretschmer's game is no more responsible for his acts than Gacy's rats.

Lawrence Kutner and Cheryl Olson make this very clear in their review of the evidence on computer games - Grand Theft Childhood. Game addiction is a symptom of something wrong and not a cause.


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PostSubject: Re: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:33 am

dril, how the fuck do you know so much about a load of psycopaths?(probably spelt wrong). pig
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PostSubject: Re: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:46 am

it's an article iv'e read,i wanted to see what you ppl think about it albino
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PostSubject: Re: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:48 pm

Crazy people are crazy before they play games.
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PostSubject: Re: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:01 pm

Obs wrote:
Crazy people are crazy before they play games.

i do think that with certain ppl videogames do affect their behaivior
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PostSubject: Re: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:15 pm

there was some guy that acctually admitted that the things he did, he copied off of GTA but some people thought that ha planned that he was going to say thsat to try and get those sort of games banned. pig


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PostSubject: Re: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:22 pm

Matt wrote:
there was some guy that acctually admitted that the things he did, he copied off of GTA but some people thought that ha planned that he was going to say thsat to try and get those sort of games banned.
didin't he steal a cop gun too?
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PostSubject: Re: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:26 pm

i dont know the details, all i know is that he wasnt really a psycopath or anything, he was just strongly against video games like GTA, so he pretended to be a psycopath and when he got causght pretended that itr was GTA that made him do the things he did, thats all i know, i dont know what crimes he acctually committed. pig
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PostSubject: Re: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:40 pm

Its bullshit.. you have to be mentally unstable to be directly influenced by a game, therefore you must be mental before playing.
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PostSubject: Re: Did video games cause the shooting in Germany?   Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:47 pm

probably, im not very knowledgable in the matter but yh, i mean whoever would acctually let a game get to them like that has issues. pig
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